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Tea vs. Kool Aid: My Response to Nathan Gawronsky at SMC

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Nathan Gawronsky is a writer for the Corsair at Santa Monica College. I attended the Associated Students (AS) meeting yesterday and was given a brief tour by their AS President, Tiffany Ibuyani along with my ASO Presidents Shawn Adamski and Jaden Ledkins. I was impressed with the wealth of the community college but not with much else. LACC definitely has more heart. However, I digress, as I read this fluff piece in their Corsair newspaper I had to answer it back.  The piece is entitled “Tea Party and GOP are mad as hatters.”

The following is what makes us “mad.” (Of course, I am mad, mad that people like these seem willing to sell my rights, my country and children for the criminal element of our population!)

 The idealized America that Tea Party followers dream of is a place where gays live exclusively in Los Angeles (Sodom) and New York (Gomorrah), corporations pay record low taxes, women never get abortions, prisons grow bigger, and Muslims and illegal aliens can take a hike.

My response:

The liberal ideology is so much based on the acceptance of debauchery and criminality that if it wasn’t so highly lethal, it would be almost funny. Let’s take each piece that you think adds to society starting with homosexuality. Liberals are the same people who will condemn a person for smoking because it shortens their life and pollutes the environment yet have no problem with homosexuality which a Canadian study found shortened the lives of those affected by it from 8-20 years. Smoking only takes 13 years off your life. If you want to read the study for yourself go to: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9222793?dopt=Abstract

 In a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality were to continue, we estimate that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday. Under even the most liberal assumptions, gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871.

So why would I promote something that is potentially lethal to so many people? Just like I don’t advocate smoking, alcoholism or drug use, I don’t promote homosexuality either. It does not make me a bigot, though that is a easy comeback for the liberal Left. It makes a concerned citizen who does not wish to see a life get snuffed out by homosexual practices.

Let’s go with the next one, corporations pay record low taxes. Unless you are a sadist, no one wants to pay taxes, everyone wants to pay the lowest possible tax and what is wrong with that? The less corporations have to pay in taxes, the more likely they are stay in the United States to do business. The more they stay here instead of going oversea, the more likely Americans will have jobs. The more Americans that have jobs, the less we have to spend on welfare and other social programs. The less we have to spend on social programs, the more money can be used for education and other necessary institutions. Everybody wins!

Onto the next one, women never get abortions! Liberal men have to be the most cowardly of the male species because they are the ones who advocate abandoning women and children to abortion so they can continue their wanton ways of seducing every woman who comes along. Abortion is not about the rights of women, in fact, Alice Paul-the author of the Equal Rights Amendments, said abortion was the ultimate exploitation of women. The original suffragettes were all anti-abortion. Abortion has always been about men trying to pit women against her children. In fact, Bernard Nathanson, who is now pro-life but originally got NARAL started is the one who convinced Betty Friedan to make abortion a “woman’s issue” because it never was before. Up to 60 percent of women are forced or coerced into abortion. Women have been killed for NOT choosing abortion.  Women like Deena Moody who was killed by her abortionist boyfriend, Alfred E. Smith, for refusing to abort. A world where women never get abortion would be a world where women and children are safe and protected from pro-abortion predators. A women where women never get abortions means a world where all children are free to be born and lead the lives they were destined to live without interference from pro-choicers. It would be a beautiful world filled with laughter of children instead of 50 million dead!

Now, let’s talk about prisons. Is it a tragedy when you have someone who hasn’t committed a crime imprisoned? Yes, I know of such tragedies. That being said, I have also been greater traumatized because someone who should’ve been locked up wasn’t! The drunk driver who killed my father had a past history of drinking and driving and was allowed to keep driving and kill my father. So I don’t want to hear about the rights of criminals. I care more about the rights of victims. If you want to help those who have been wrongly accused and imprisoned unjustly then go to Voice of the Martyrs where people in other countries are imprisoned for professing Christ. Or does the point that they are Christians make you more antagonistic to their plight? I didn’t cry when Ted Bundy got fried. I didn’t cry when Jeffrey Dahmer was killed either. These men had caused untold damage and deserved the penalty they got. Their victims get my tears, not the murderers.

The last point-Muslims and illegal aliens can take a hike.

Most definitely!!! I don’t want to hear that all Muslims are not terrorists that is a false argument. All Muslims don’t need to be terrorists, not when you have a big enough faction of them that are. All Germans didn’t kill 5 million Jews  during World War II, it just took a big enough faction to accomplish it though. All White people weren’t slave owners pre-Civil War but there were enough of them to keep slavery intact until it was abolished. The fact that not every Muslim is out to get us, doesn’t mean we ignore the ones who are!

In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khaled Shaikh Mohammed, Yousef’s uncle. In March 1994, four men were convicted of carrying out the bombing:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

Then we have the U.S.S Cole which was also bombed by Al Qaeda.

The USS Cole Bombing, or the USS Cole Incident, was a suicide attack against the United StatesNavydestroyerUSS Cole (DDG 67) on October 12, 2000 while it was harbored and refueling in the Yemeni port of Aden. Seventeen American sailors were killed, and 39 were injured. This event was the deadliest attack against a United States Naval vessel since 1987

Of course, 9/11 is pretty obvious and then we have Nick Berg who was beheaded on the internet, need I go on. Until we stop being attacked and until the Muslims revolt against this tyranny don’t ask to close my eyes to those who are trying to kill me and my people!

Lastly, really do I have to defend LEGAL immigration!? I don’t welcome criminals into my country. Come to my country correctly or don’t come at all! Respect my land or go home! If you can’t understand why I am against ILLEGAL immigration then I would say the mad hatter is actually you, not the ones who want the rules of their country to be respected! I don’t have time to continue, have to get back to studying and not breaking the law! What a tough day I have in store!

 Dena Leichnitz                                                                                      Los Angeles City College
ASO, Senator of Disabled Student Affairs
proud Tea Party member

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6 thoughts on “Tea vs. Kool Aid: My Response to Nathan Gawronsky at SMC

  1. Leichnitz,

    Your arguments are deceptive and false.
    Calling me a liberal is typical of a Tea Party knee jerk reaction when anyone disagrees with your ideology.
    Firstly, your study on homosexuals has nothing to do with homosexuals as a whole. Rather, it focuses solely on homosexuals with HIV/AIDS. Maybe you should mention that before making blanket statements about an entire section of society.
    What’s wrong with paying low taxes? Nothing. But when American billionaires pay lower taxes than middle class Americans, and state programs meant to help those middle class Americans are being cut, that’s not only wrong, it’s morally reprehensible. Taxes should be charged equitably. There is something wrong when GE, Exxon Mobil (to name just a few), some of the largest corporations in America, not only don’t pay a dime in taxes but earns millions in tax credits. Meanwhile teachers, public servants, public services, and much more gets cut out and laid off. And for what, so the wealthiest Americans don’t have to fork over some extra cash?
    There is just no end to this special brand of greed.
    And if you really think low taxes will keep jobs in America, then we just haven’t kept taxes low enough! Corporations like the two I mentioned above continue to ship jobs overseas, amazingly enough!
    Everybody wins!
    Now onto abortions: This is the think I don’t understand about the Tea Party. On the one hand, I understand your desire to keep the government small, and it’s reach into citizens’ lives kept to a minimum. There is no need for the government to butt into everyone’s lives; but when it comes to a woman’s right to control what she does with her body, suddenly it becomes okay–no, paramount that the government do something about this!
    This has nothing to do with women being exploited by men. This has everything to do with religious beliefs becoming official government policy.
    It has nothing to do with men pitting women against their children. What on earth? Absurd.
    Prisons: It’s not a tragedy when criminals go to prison. What is a tragedy is when the United States holds more prisoners than the entire rest of the world’s prisoners combined. And this doesn’t seem to bother conservatives, or the GOP. Which I find deplorable.
    And on Muslims: fact is, there is a massive contingent of Muslims who want to kill us. No argument. But there is an even bigger percentage of Muslims who don’t. Your attitude is paranoid, bigoted, and ignorant.
    The element of extremism that threatens our country exists in all groups. Religious or otherwise, just about everyone has some extremists who hate us and wouldn’t mind seeing us dead. Singling out Muslims doesn’t fix anything; it only adds to the disease.

    Thank you for reading my articles. I hope you’ll continue to do so.

  2. This post is, unfortunately, total rubbish. Do you realize that you are arguing for big, no scratch that, enormous-government. You are no tea-party member. Read Dick Armey’s Tea Party Manifesto, us true tea party members hate big government. You are arguing for a government that dictates who we can love, what we can do with our bodies and what religion we can observe. On top of that you want to throw those who don’t live to your moral code in jail. The only things you got right is immigration and taxes. This is why Mr. Gawronsky thinks all Tea Party Members are stupid. 5 million Jews, really? Citing Wikipedia, are you serious? You know nothing about why we are ‘mad.’ The Tea Party has nothing to do with your moral agenda, that’s why we have worked toward throwing out the Christian Right. Please don’t write a defense of the Tea Party if you don’t understand the Tea Party. Read these articles and you will see that the Tea Party is against Big Government, not for an Over Reaching Government.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704407804575425061553154540.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

    http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/max/the-mandate-the-contract-from-america

  3. I see you didn’t appreciate my first response to this blog post of yours; did you delete it?
    Anyway, I posted this page to my facebook and twitter; so far I’ve gotten some very interesting feedback. The best was this, considering it came from a friend of mine who considers himself a “conservative:”
    David Kahn: now thats dedication- she went to the extent of writing a lengthy tea party response just to satirize their logic and further prove your points. truly a great fan! sorry I can’t match that level!

    Again, I want to thank you for being such a great fan. Sorry if these postings seem a little hostile; I’m usually a very civil guy, really. Except for when it comes to ignorant, paranoid bigots.

  4. Calling me a liberal is typical of a Tea Party knee jerk reaction when anyone disagrees with your ideology.

    No, I called you a liberal because of what you seem to espouse in your article, which I figured is your ideology. Therefore it has nothing to do with whether I agree with you or not. It has everything to do with you personally wrote. If you have a problem being called a liberal, I would take a deep look at your beliefs. I don’t have a problem with being called a conservative, why do you have one with being called a liberal?

    but when it comes to a woman’s right to control what she does with her body, suddenly it becomes okay–no, paramount that the government do something about this!

    Let me explain this to you in small words that you can understand-IT IS NOT HER BODY SHE IS KILLING!!!! Unless, you are calling every woman who carried a male child (including your own mother!) a hermaphodite because for nine months she is also carrying within her a penis, testicles, and scrotum. My son was no more-my body-when I was pregnant with him then he is now. He is a separate individual who has a right to live independent of whether I want him to have a life or not. I guess it does not bother you that YOU and your sick ilk have killed 50 million people!!!! The Nazis only killed 5 millon. You are ten times worse than any NAZI.

    And I don’t want to hear we don’t care about children after they get out of the womb because it was White Republican women who brought Dafur and the sex slave trade, especially of children, to light. For all your talk about human rights Dems and liberals have done more damage to human beings than the Right could ever dream of. Who was it that ended slavery? It was a Dem, I can tell you that? Who was it who said “Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever? A Dem! (George Wallace!) Who has killed more Black children through abortion and poor education even going so far as denying them school vouchers that would help them attend better public schools in order to give them a better start in life? Dems! So don’t even come at me like you have an ounce of compassion for women with crisis pregnancies! Who provides clothes, strollers, and parenting classes for pregnant women-Catholic Charities and other pro-life groups, not a Leftist in the bunch!

  5. Guess Who: If that’s what Tea Party is all about, even I can learn to love something like that. Libertarian values at it’s best; people living in mutual respect of one another, regardless of race, religion, sexual preference, political party. Leichnitz has an idealized version of what American is supposed to be like; and frankly, if America is supposed to be like that, I think it’s safe to say that the America of our founding father’s has been usurped by big government politicians who would like our land to become something akin to a feudal society, where our lord’s are the church and the corporation.

    Leichnitz,
    It’s so typical of YOUR ilk to bring up an inappropriate nazi reference. Pro-choice individuals are not ANYTHING like nazis, and never will be. In fact, Nazi’s HATED the idea of abortion, so let that settle for a while. Wait, even that doesn’t make you a nazi. Everyone just has to stop comparing their political enemies to the nazis. As a Jew, but more importantly as a thinking human being, I take extreme umbrage at that. It trivializes history, which apparently you have no problem doing (5 million jews?)

  6. I always laugh when I read a reference to Dick Armey’s “tea party”. Dick Armey is not a member of the tea party, nor is the tea party his. Dick Armey is a neo-con, in the payroll of the same Prince bin Talal who funded the 9/11 terrorists, and the Muslim Brotherhood. Armey is NOT a conservative or a republican, he’s a Trotskyite, a neo-conservative, and not to be trusted.

    So, to the person bashing this article, who is having a fit criticizing this article, blathering on about some ‘right to love’, you don’t know what love is, and you don’t get to claim the tea party for yourself. Nor is it allowing religion to control government, when one states that the constitution doesn’t provide a right to abortion. What I’ve seen, is the pro-abortionists now demanding that schools help kids get abortions and hide the fact from their parents.. that’s big government.

    The religious have a right to their beliefs and to consider homosexuality wrong, a sin. And our immigration laws are constitutional, and in the interest of protecting the most vulnerable US citizens from being harmed. What’s more, you have absolutely no grasp of what civil rights are. There is no civil right to violate the civil rights of US citizens.

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